Episode 06 | Origins: Do you check Facebook & give yourself a pedicure in class?

In today’s episode, Alex & Lisa get together to share their strangest experiences as yoga teachers & students. We talk about everything between having a mystical experience to worst studio etiquette, weird (and awesome!) students and injuries. Mostly though, we are just having a laugh so tune in to share it with us this week!

(Lisa recording the podcast episode)

Lisa 0:22

Happy Monday, everyone and welcome to another episode of Asana Etc, conversations about yoga with myself, Lisa and Alex Rodoni, who is my partner. I am currently sitting in our Prague Yoga Collective Letna studio where I've built up my little home office because it's been a bit difficult these past few weeks in regards to everything being closed and being locked down and having children at home. And as you will hear on the recording today, as well, there are some kids voices in the background screaming and rolling around, not so much, but you'll hear them they're definitely present in the apartment. So I've set up over here. And you know what, I'm sitting under a blanket because it is so echoey in here, and hopefully this blanket will make it better. So just to give you a visual, where I'm at and what I'm doing. Today, me and Alex are going to chat a little bit about the strangest experiences we've had in our teaching career. So Alex has prepared a few questions for me where she she's gonna ask me like, what's the strangest this and that and, and, and we're having quite a lot of fun and a lot of laughs today. So, so I hope you enjoy it. I really enjoyed recording this pod smiling ear to ear so. Enjoy, guys.

Alex 1:53

Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining us. I'm Alex and Lisa is here too and welcome to Asana Etc Conversations About Yoga. So, Lisa, how are you doing today?

Lisa 2:10

I'm okay. It's been snowing. It's weird. It was like 22 degrees last week. And now it's been snowing and I feel weird about it.

Alex 2:19

Oh my god. It's Sunday right now though. You guys we just went through like a blizzard. It was totally snowing about an hour ago. And now. The sun is shining again. It's crazy April weather. We get all of the seasons in one day in this country.

Lisa 2:35

Yeah, I guess we get that in Sweden, too. But it's not so extreme. Because here it's like summer and then it's like minus 19 degrees. You know? Yeah. Anyway, yeah, not nice. I just want summer.

Alex 2:50

Soon enough, soon enough.

Lisa 2:53

Yes, please.

Alex 2:56

Um, so today, you guys, we want to talk a little bit about a specific topic. We're gonna talk to you about our craziest experiences, our strangest experiences throughout our yoga career.

Lisa 3:15

This is gonna be a good one.

Alex 3:17

Yeah, I just wrote down some random questions that that I want to to ask you about Lisa. And we'll just see because you know, okay, you think like yoga, we have this nice, like experience with each other. sharing space, and it's all very calm, and you feel very nice and have this yoga glow after your practice. But in any situation when you're dealing with other humans, when we are coming into contact with different personalities, there's always I don't know, there's always an element of surprise to be had. So maybe, I don't know. We don't have any preparation for this at all. So I haven't even showed Lisa these questions yet. But we'll see. Maybe Maybe it'll be really normal to see how this turns out. Yeah. So um, I guess we'll just jump straight into it. Let's Okay, let's go really broad So staying in this topic, what's the craziest what's the strangest? And just tell me about a time anyway, you've had a very long yoga career. Right? How long have you been teaching for?

(Juliann, Betti, Lisa, & Alex hanging out in Letna Park)

Lisa 4:28

Oh, like, What year is it? I think it started in 2000, 2007.

Alex 4:39

Yeah, that's gotta be a lot of experiences to pull from here.

Lisa 4:44

I'm sure some of the strangest ones were were with with me on the other side, too. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Good. Okay.

Alex 4:54

So tell me Just tell me again very generally think back to a time of just the strangest I would a person person or something a person did in your class, what is the weirdest, or craziest thing a person has done in your class while you have been the instructor?

Lisa 5:13

That is a really big question. But let me see the first thing that really first thing that pops into my head is this lady that used to come to my classes. When I was teaching in the Philippines in Manila. I was teaching in a couple of studios there, there were like really big studios. And they had a lot of students come in and whatever. And she, I think, I didn't know for a long time, but she was sort of famous or something. And she would always come in and do her hot yoga in her big black sunglasses. In the studio. The whole 90 minutes, she had her big black sunglasses on. And that, to me, it was just so strange, because it was like, you know, I don't know, 40 degrees, even more sometimes in this hot room. And she struggled to push these glasses up her nose all the time, because they would glide off. And I don't know if she was just like trying to hide from people seeing who she was, or something. But it was it was hilarious.

Alex 6:14

It was great. Well, was she like up front and center? or was she hiding in the back for this?

Lisa 6:18

Oh, no. She was like, usually somewhere in the middle. She wasn't like, hey, here I am. But she wasn't either hiding. I don't know what that was all about. Maybe Maybe she had bad vision. I don't know. But it was just really strange. And nobody ever explained it to me. I think I didn't dare ask either. Because you know, when someone's a little bit important, and everybody's like, Oh, she's important. You're like, oh, not gonna question anything? Yeah, definitely. Right. No. Oh, well. How about you do anything in mind when you wrote that question?

Alex 6:52

You know, I, I wish I had, like, I'm trying to think there's always and this is welcome. Let me just preface this. This is welcome in class, if you if you want to come into class, and do your own thing, it's fantastic. You can do whatever you want, you know, and we promote that we're always talking about modify your practice, make it feel good for your body. If you don't like it, skip it, get rid of it do something different. Right. And, and we mean this, but it is always kind of funny when you have someone come in`to, I don't know, a dance routine or something like that.

Lisa 7:28

Yeah, goodness.

Alex 7:30

But, but that's okay. I don't I don't want to say that's the strangest, because I'm literally opening every single class in that exact way. So it's just, it's just funny when it does happen. I'm just like, Yeah, you do you.

Lisa 7:42

Yeah. But it's not like this lady, you know, was she wasn't bothering me. It wasn't like something deep wasn't bad. But it makes you wonder. And I found the whole class going, why, you know, and they couldn't really focus on what I was there to do all the time. Because I was just wondering why these sunglasses had to be on.

Alex 8:00

Totally. Yeah. incognito Rockstar status.

Lisa 8:04

Maybe? Maybe probably, you know, maybe one day we'll be incognito rocktsars that need sunglasses.

Alex 8:09

I'm gonna do it. Fake it till you make it. Yeah, right. Yeah, but I guess one of the strangest things that I have that okay, or maybe a pet peeve, I should say, Is it something that's so obvious that you would think that people would respect but the telephone thing in class when people are checking their phone in class and there's been a person that quite consistently, they bring their whole bag, like their purse, you know, it's like, it was like a nice big purse that this person would bring in all the time. And she would constantly just reach into her bag, check her phone, do a few things on the phone, and then put it back in the purse go back to her asanas. You know, and just like how, how, and then I finally like, tried to like watch over her shoulder, like what she was looking at. And she was literally scrolling, she was just scrolling social media. Why? What's going on? So that's just a little bit. It's just a little bit strange when everybody's, you know, got their, you know, movement in flow happening. And then this person just has, I don't know, checking constantly, constantly. So,

Yeah, I know, I think I've had a few of those too just like Facebook, you know, it's not like I'm checking for an important message from my boss or my babysitter. It's just like Facebook. Yeah.

Yeah. Like why? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. It's a little weird. But other than that, like, I don't know if that's as far as weird as it gets for me, I guess.

Lisa 9:51

Yeah. Oh, a gross thing, a gross thing, the grossest thing if you're out there listening, and you are going into yoga class, and you're doing this, please Stop. You pedicuring your toes is the grossest thing that you can do. And everybody can see you even if you think they can't.

Alex 10:14

Right? It's true, but I'm so guilty of it.

Lisa 10:20

Oh my god, maybe I do. Maybe some subconscious thing. Yeah, I

Alex 10:25

think it is, you know, as you know, in yoga, right, you have this point of focus called the drishti called the gaze. And quite often, especially in a forward fold, it's at your toes. So here I am intently, staring at my toes. I'm trying to be in this meditative state, but I'm just like, oh my god, what is that? I gotta fix this. And yeah, I find myself I just can't I just can't help it. I just do it.

But now that I've been shamed for it, I'll definitely check myself next time.

Lisa 10:55

I don't actually know if I've seen you do it, but there's always someone there was one class that I was teaching. When I was teaching in Ireland, there was this lady who would always do it and she had these feet that like had a lot to pick at. You know, like okay, we're getting into detail now. But it was disgusting because she always left this like little pile of rubble, you know, from her feet after herself. And was also stood here that was a hot studio, so I was like, wiping it down after with with a mop because everybody got sweaty, and I would have to mop up her pile of skin.

Alex 11:32

Rubble, I love how you call it rubble.

Lisa 11:36

But it was, yeah, anyway, gross. Lots of detail. Lots of detail. We should put like an explicit content on this podcast.

Alex 11:44

Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay, so pet peeves got that. Okay, so in the same in the same breath in the same vein, have you ever had a strange experience with an instructor? Has somebody some specific teacher or instructor done something just really radical or, or weird? And maybe it doesn't have to be like, something bad or gross or, you know, but just something extra, like totally extra, like, unexpected surprise you anything like that?

Lisa 12:19

I don't know, like, funny. I've had a few ones that are just maybe too out there for me or two. Too much. You know, these like, I don't know, I know, I'm a white woman teaching yoga, but these white women that just get all spiritual on you. And they, I don't know, they just talk about Mother Earth and, and Shiva and, and some other religion in the same sentence. And they just sort of push it on you and you're like, No, wait, hold on a second, you just made all that up. You know, this, this, these, these sort of teachers that you can't really trust? Because they just blabbering on and on about something? Do you know what I mean?

Alex 13:08

But I get so drawn into it. You know I do I really do. And I think about it, because because I think about what I say, as an instructor teaching, you know, and there's certain things that if they're not like logical or like scientific, I don't want to go as far as to say, like scientific but like, if they don't make sense, like sometimes the way that we direct breath or, or things like this, I'm just like, what, what are you talking about right now? You can't like put your breath over there. It's not it's going into my lungs. It's coming back out of my lungs, you know? And that's just like a small example. But when somebody else says it, I'm all the way down the rabbit hole with them, you know?

Lisa 13:53

Yeah, I am too, though. But there, there are a few. Okay, so one example. Long time ago, I went to Ubud to Bali, maybe this was like 2010, or something like a long time ago. And I went to the yoga barn and took a class from this lady who set us all up in the circle. And all she was like, talking about what was the goddess within? Yeah, and there was like me and two other ladies. And then a bunch of dudes who were trying to find this goddess within. And she had her eyes closed the whole time. Like she didn't even look at us. Once she was in the middle, her eyes were closed. didn't look at us. And then there were these like little geckos, you know, these little geckos like climb on the on the inside of the ceilings, and they, for some reason, there was like five of them that dropped into the class onto the floor round, which was pretty normal, but she was like, she would, she would say every time one dropped, she would come up with some really odd spiritual reason why that Gecko dropped into that spot on the floor. And it was like, it was so ridiculous. The people, we were just looking at each other going, What the fuck are we doing? Like not, you know? And it was Yeah, I don't know. I don't think there's a single person who was into it. But her because she could be anyone she was, you know, that kind of when it gets to that level? Yeah. Or even before that. I'm like, Okay. No, no, this is no. Yeah,

Alex 15:36

I see what you mean. Like, it's totally out there. Yeah.

Lisa 15:40

A bit much. It's when it feels made up. You know, when someone's like, I made this up this afternoon. Right, you know, right. Yeah.

Alex 15:49

Yeah, that's when I can't get behind it. You get like, yeah, distance from it is totally comes off as like, ingenuine in that way. I think it's always the best when, like a teacher tells you their own story, you know, they're just like, relate something like everyday like, I missed the tram. You know, and then they turn it into this like lesson about how I'm going to practice my handstand today in class. Betti does this so well. And I'm always just so impressed with how she twists with, like, sees the same layers, you know, this kind of like fractal nature and all of it and brings it back into, into an intention for class. It's beautiful. Yeah,

Lisa 16:26

I really like that, too. I like that too. Yeah. There was one teacher I went to in, in Australia. And I really liked going to her classes. She was real fun. And she would do this. And then one day, she said, and this has stuck with me and Trygve. Trygve's my husband, by the way, if you don't know. And she said, Do you know today I found out the meaning of the word gratitude. If you say great, and you say attitude, and you put them together, it becomes gratitude. Great attitude means gratitude. I almost died. So cute. Yeah. Like, always, we always refer back to that. I mean, I cringe and laugh about it so funny. And anyway, after that, I sort of I sort of lost that. I couldn't really listen to her anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, great. Yeah. Yeah. How about you? Do you have any?

Alex 17:38

You know, I really I don't, I've had a whole bunch of normies. It's not been like two. Yeah, nothing that's been tried to think. No, I think when we I've had a few showboaty like show off kind of instructors, but nothing too much. You know, I think that there was a good intention there trying to like, just show exactly what to do and obviously do it perfectly. But you know, really eager to do so. Yeah. But no, I don't unfortunately.

Lisa 18:13

Yeah. I mean, I think there's always good intention, you know, Even in people who go a little bit too far, there's always good intention behind it. I mean, of course, once in a while, there's not good intention, right. But I think that's not the norm. And I don't think that that's what I mean, either. I think that just maybe this just shows that everything is not for everyone, you find your path within the practice. And and you find the teachers that resonate with, with your soul, or your beliefs or your you know, like everything else, it's like finding your friends, you know, the ones that resonate with you, they they're the ones that you listen to, you know,

Alex 18:57

Right. That's what's so great about the practice to just yoga itself when you're doing and I mean, on the mat and off the mat. But when you're doing this kind of practice in life, you become your own I know sounds really cheesy, but you become your own teacher, you know, it just you learn these little lessons along the way all by yourself, whether your teacher told you how to connect with your inner goddess, or not that day, you know, that morning and your morning practice? You still get to learn the lessons. That's what's so beautiful. about it all.

Lisa 19:27

Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's good to have teachers and it's good to have, I don't know, kudos, I don't know if we want to call them that. But people to look up to and to follow and to listen to and to learn from but also, like you say, always reflecting back on yourself and going, Hey, does this resonate with me in my body, in my brain in my breath, and then sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't. And that's where we build our practice. Like you sat on the mat and off the mat. And I don't know. It's like a daily. daily practice, isn't it? Yeah, for sure. Huh?

Alex 20:10

Yeah. Okay, well, good. So next one here. Um, let's, I'm gonna keep it medium broad, and we'll break it down and look at it. Okay, any, Is there ever been a reason or strange or crazy reason that you haven't been able to make it to class or a reason that you called out sick? Or couldn't make it to a class to teach to teach? To teach?

Lisa 20:40

I'm, that's a tough one. I'm like, I, I'm always on time. I would say not always, of course, but like, I'm ashamed of myself. If I'm not on time. I'm one of those people, usually when it comes to starting classes and stuff like that. Well, could it be? I mean, a few times when I taught in Asia traffic, you know, you just stuck somewhere on a motorway. You just literally can't be there. But that's not so strange. Like, yeah, no, no, not that I can think of I sort of drop everything sort of to an extent of her, you know, hurting someone's feelings to get to? If I'm with someone else, you know, yeah. I don't know. Do you?

Alex 21:37

Do you have I don't think I do either. These questions - I should have thought about this kind of stuff. But no,

Lisa 21:42

I really brain? I don't know. Yeah, go on.

Alex 21:45

No, it's just obviously, you know, it's like the first part of like, having a job is being being there being reliable. I don't think that you and I, and Betti also is super reliable as well, we wouldn't have been able to do what we've done without just making it to teach, showing up to class.

(Betti teaching one of the classes on Asanaetc.com)

Lisa 22:05

It's something that we teach our students and our teacher training, it's very important to us. Like, if you go out and teach, you have to be reliable. There's so many flaky yoga teachers out there. And we've had flaky yoga teachers work for us that just like call in sick an hour and a half before classes about to start because, you know, some really vague reason, you know, and I find I can't I can't deal with that. It just makes it turns me off so much.

Alex 22:33

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Totally. It's a hard thing. It just, it seems so simple, you know. But yeah, but a good skill to have to be reliable. I'm really trying to think I don't think I think I've also had maybe some traffic issues, but nothing exciting. Boy, Metro jams or something like that. Yeah.


Lisa 22:59

That was a boring one. Could have been fun, but it was boring.

Alex 23:05

Man, sorry.

Lisa 23:07

No, you're fine.

Yeah, right.

Alex 23:13

Okay, so in your own practice, your own yoga practice, whether it's asana practice, or your yoga practice, off of the mat, once you've chosen to follow this, like yogic lifestyle, have you ever had a mystical experience?

Lisa 23:32

What what it? Can you elaborate what that means?

Alex 23:36

A mystical experience, like, have you ever felt maybe that you've seen a different realm, or experienced taigher state of consciousness or an extended period of pure bliss, due to maybe your, like I said, asana practice, or some practice that you've done off the mat, or maybe a pranayama breathing technique or practice. If there's been, I don't know, anything that's been bigger than just this, like reality that we're living in every day.

Lisa 24:03

Wow, that's also a big one. There are a couple there are a few times. Usually, in meditation, I say Usually, this doesn't happen very often. The one that comes to mind Firstly, is when we had just opened the boonie station. Studio, and I showed up to teach a class and no one came. And I was like, Okay, I'll do my own practice. And then you know, these times when you start your own practice, and you're like, Nah, I can't move today. So I just sat down and had a meditation for a while. And I set my timer for it to go off. You can I don't know if you have those like meditation timers on your phone, but I do. It's like these. It would just be a little ding when you've done whatever 20 minutes or something. may set it to go off but then Don't think it went off or I got so like, caught up in my brain. It's one of those things when I think back and I'm like, did I fall asleep? But I don't think I did. Because Can you fall asleep? Sitting? You can write, I don't know, but it was just really, really strange. And I was not in my body. And when the timer like when when I was when I like sort of came out of my meditation, it was like two and a half hours later, as night time, it was just real strain, really. But also real cool. I felt real cool after that, like, Oh, you know, like, like something had happened. That Oh, yeah, I knew about this thing. But it wasn't like I was hanging out with some mythical creatures in some faraway land or something. I was just, you know, I don't know, somewhere else for a long time. And it didn't feel like a long time.

Alex 25:54

Yeah, totally. That's, you know, interesting. And so you said it was about two and a half hours when you came out of like this transient type of thing. Yeah. Uh huh.

Lisa 26:03

Yeah. Yeah. And it was night, and it was like, there was a CrossFit gym downstairs, and they like locked up and gone home. And it was just real, like, I don't know, if it was like, 930 or something like 10 o'clock. It was just really, no,

Alex 26:21

I know, you had like, a memory of the time itself. It was just like, no time and just kind of like a blank space. A blank.

Lisa 26:31

Yeah, but like a blank, nice, warm space. You know, like, I was real. Maybe I did sleep. You know, I was sitting in the middle of the room, though. And I was sitting when I when I was like, Okay, yeah, done with it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And it wasn't like, I was leaning against something or lying down or anything. It was like I was sitting.

Alex 26:56

But that's what they say, you know, like, when you talk about, especially like, the eight limbs, you know, when you're going through these different steps, like, the absence of time is one of those steps as you like withdraw from the sesnes, you know, and then you can kind of, yeah, trance, like, trance out of your body. and meditate out of it. Interesting.

Lisa 27:17


Alex 27:19

Are you okay, so as far as mystical experiences, I feel like I've had actually quite a bit, and they've come in many different forms. Yeah, like this. I've had quite a few. Okay, well, so I've done a lot of psychedelic drugs that I've experimented with.

Lisa 27:37

I didn't want to get into those experiences. We're going there. Okay, okay.

Alex 27:47

So with psychedelics, if you're doing psychedelics, there's like the fast track the fast track way, you know, to experience these things, and you can like, blast off into these different dimensions in this different like state of consciousness, and then you kind of come back to yourself, and you can process all that information afterward. Or maybe a little bit during, you know, but then also, with your yoga practice, I feel like it's a it's a parallel path, it's the same path. It's just much slower, takes a lot longer to climb the mountain, if you will. And, but since I've had this kind of psychedelic experience to compare to, maybe an experience I've had in meditation, I know that they feel very similar in that way. So it's interesting. So okay, without talking about all psychedelic experiences aside, I did have one that was really interesting. When I was in meditation, also, I've had some Yeah, like I said, some good ones with some guided meditation, but one time This one was just by myself. This is it's always like kind of hard to explain these types of things. But now when my eyes were closed, my mind felt really expansive, very big. Like very like just widened, you know, like, like a dark room but like, bigger than just, you know, when you close your eyes. It just felt very expansive, I guess it's the best way I can say it. But I felt like there were these like, there was like this, this like blue line running like vertically down and what I think kind of represents maybe like my spine, or along my back and it was this thick blue line. And it made this like resonant blue sound. and it was like this low humming and then my internal thoughts. They were like, represented in this like vision as like this like high pitched like red tiny line that kept on like, moving away from the blue line and like messing up like this, like beautiful like harmonic like hum. Right. And so I would have thought I would see it in this red color, like this string being struck. And then when I could silence it and bring it all together like this red line with line up with this blue line making this purple color. And it would come together. And then it would be like this nice, soft hum. Again, it was very interesting. And then it would like go all chaotic, and it kept on going back and forth. And I could almost like control it. It was really bizarre. And it was very profound in the moment, again, a very difficult thing, because it was attached to so many feelings at the time. But yeah, I reached that through meditation, which is very nice.

Lisa 30:30

It's really cool when he got a like, because I can I can see, when you say when you explain that to me, I can go like, yes, yes, it's this, you know, that's why you need the blue line, like, like, yeah, you know, and it's like, it just represents I think, somehow, and in different brains, it just looks different and different colors and different. You know? Yeah.

Yeah, it's just sort of, yeah, I don't know, I think it's really cool. The brain is really cool. And there's so much that we're not using it for, I think,

Alex 31:03

Right. And then when you can access it in this kind of way, you know, just like these small little insights is just amazing. It just makes it like, wow, I don't know, makes it better, it makes everything brighter, somehow, some reason.

Lisa 31:17

Now, whenever I have, I don't always meditate because I can't always do that. It's so I think that's the hardest bit of my practice is meditation. But sometimes I do have a good practice. And whenever I can, when it's longer periods of time, you know, every day, it becomes clear, you know, you can close your mind and on these things, after a while, and then it goes away, when you don't practice is the same as like, I don't know, your handstand or whatever you practice, practice. And then you're like, well, I'm doing it and then you don't do it for a long time. And then you can't, you know, yeah, then it just goes away. Yeah,

Alex 31:59

That's a great point. I know exactly what you mean. It's like an exercise that you really do have to work at. I feel like that sometimes I feel like there's these these times in my life where I've been still into that part to that practice, to meditation into reading about these kinds of experiences and this stuff. And my mind just works on that frequency on that level. But then the second that you walk away from it, it's just like, you know, you don't use it, you lose it type of thing.

Lisa 32:24

Yeah, absolutely. We've been doing some meditation and some other things with chiggy. Lately, because we've just been so if you're not in Prague, we are still in lockdown. And we have had kindergartens closed for the past, I think six weeks now. And if you have small children, you go a little bit nuts hanging out with them all day and all night. So we've gotten up at 5am for a few days now just to like sit in silence and chiggy does one sort of meditation that he likes, and I do another and it's such a it's just blissful. Somehow, you know, to just maybe it has to do with the fact that our our kids, but maybe it's also, you know, this thing of I don't know, I haven't had a good meditation practice for the past year, I think because of everything that's been going on in the world. But it's been nice to sort of come home to that and tune your brain into that again. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I don't know. But it's difficult to come back to if you if you're scatterbrained and everything's going on around you.

Alex 33:37

Right. And it's the simplest thing, you know, that's, that's what's so interesting about it is just sitting down, close your eyes, and just breathing and that's it. But somehow it's the hardest thing to make time for.

Lisa 33:48

Mm hmm. Absolutely.

Alex 33:51

Yeah. Okay, so I have just a couple of questions left.

Lisa 33:57


Alex 33:57

Let's, let's see here. Okay. So same kind of idea as before with people in your class. What about on a retreat? What's the craziest experience you've had on a retreat? Whether you've been a student or you've been leading the retreat?

Lisa 34:15

Craziest experience, I mean, our one was a bit nuts, but not like super crazy. It was cold. It was cold for about a week. In Morocco. It was nice, but it was just so cold and my bed was so cold. All I can think of and then when you when you got to take a shower, then you had to like save hot water for other people. So you couldn't be in there for too long. And yeah, it was awful. absolutely awful.

Alex 34:47

That is it. I think that's it's the same story for me. We went to Morocco a couple of years ago. And we wanted to go in February, thinking it was going to be Great idea to you know, keep find this, like go search out the sun and find this warm weather. And it was fine when we are outside like in the sun. But all of these houses are freezing cold because they're not set up with heat at all. And we had this gorgeous house that had these like wraparound decks that were like, it was three storeys high. But the inside of it was totally open completely. And it rained in the house, it literally rained into the house, like we're having breakfast and everything. And it was freezing.

Lisa 35:35

And it was freezing. And I remember they were like, yeah, about once a year we get about a week of rain. Yeah. And we were like, Oh, it's this week, right? They were like, yeah, yeah, I didn't know. I would go back to that house and have another retreat, though. Like in a different time slot. That was the year was really beautiful. Absolutely. But not not him. What was it February?

Alex 36:00

Yeah, it was. It was February.

Lisa 36:03

We had idea learned. Learned. We're going to Mexico in May. You guys should come.

Alex 36:09

Yeah, everyone should come. We're super excited. It's gonna be warm there. It's going to be nice. We're right on the beach. It'd be wonderful. None of us had a vacation. I guess this whole time has been a vacation in a way. But But yeah, I

Lisa 36:24

You think? An anxiety filled vacation.

Alex 36:27

It's not been relaxing one that's for sure.

Lisa 36:30

A 13 month anxiety filled. vacation. Sounds great. Oh my god, I hope we can make it to Mexico. Ah, yeah, me too.

Alex 36:41

Um, okay, so no other crazy things on retreats, what's the nicest retreat you've been to?

Lisa 36:48

Oh, the nicest. I haven't actually been to so many as a participant. We did a really nice one in the Philippines. Actually. I was teaching for the studio in Cebu. And I don't remember the name. But the A friend of mine named Maria, she was organizing a retreat. So she set it all up. And she just had me come and teach it. And we went to this tiny little island outside Sibyl island called bantayan. And we just had to like drive and be on a boat. And it was this gang of people. And it was just like our private little, little knock. And it was, it was absolutely beautiful. It's really nice. And also, I think it had to do with mean, I didn't have to sell the retreat or buy the food, or I just had to like, show up and be with these nice people and teach them yoga and, you know, be on a nice island in the Philippines.

Alex 37:46


Lisa 37:47

Yeah. So that was nice. And do that again, in a heartbeat. Cool.

Alex 37:54

The nicest. I like every retreat I've been to has been training based, you know, yeah. It's been a teacher training or, or like a long workshop type of thing. I don't know if I'd ever just gone like on a yoga and relaxation retreat have I think so. But I should go. Yeah, you should definitely.

Lisa 38:18

Oh, I can think of a strange one that I went to. Actually, if you'll allow me, of course, I went to. So I'm trained in acro yoga, which is a totally different part of my life, but I don't really use anymore. But to be able to do the acro yoga teacher training you had to do, I still think you do. But you had to do these immersions and they called it like a lunar immersion and a solar immersion to be able to actually qualify to a teacher training. So I was like, Okay, I'll go do one. And there was one in Japan. And I was like, Okay, I'll go there. And I'll do that one. And the whole thing was great in itself. But we were on the in the outskirts of Tokyo somewhere where there were no shops or no nowhere to get like food. And I'm getting to the point here is he ordered food for everyone and I was like, I'm vegetarian. Can you guys order me something? I'm expecting like, at least a bowl of rice every day. And they didn't order me any food but they they pointed me out to the garden where they had lettuce growing. And, and I just got to eat this like Tokyo garden grown homemade lettuce for five days. And towards the end, of course, like I made a trip into the city to like, go to the grocery shop and I just got like lots of fruits and veggies because I didn't even have a fridge or sleeping in this place where we actually did the training. And I was so hungry. And nobody understood everybody just ate these like they got these bento box Ces delivered. And it was just full of meat and whatever. And I was like a cat. And they were just saying if you're hungry, just have some meat. I was like, No, no, God,

Alex 40:08

Did you have to harvest it yourself?

Lisa 40:11

Yeah, absolutely.

Alex 40:13

Wow. Yeah.

Lisa 40:14

Can you imagine like, I? I like food. You know, I like food. I'm acroyoga for I think it was five days. And you know, you're in body for at least five hours a day. Yeah, six hours a day. Just working with your body and then eating lettuce. I could never. I think about my time in Japan is a very hungry period. Oh my god. Yeah. That was a strange one.

Alex 40:44

That's great. Yeah. Okay,

Lisa 40:48

So bring snacks, guys. Yeah.

Alex 40:52

Okay, last question. Huh? Okay, so injuries. What is the worst, the craziest the strangest injury that you've had from yoga, or that you've witnessed or somehow been a part of one way or the other? craziest injury?

Lisa 41:09

I mean, my own crazy. I have a crazy injury. It's not that crazy. It's just from doing Chaturanga wrong for a long time. And the shoulder that acts up all the time. It's been acting up for the past three weeks. And it's awful. And I can't sleep sometimes at night. It's just a it's a weakness in the back and a tightness in the front and it's sucks. Can I say sucks on a podcast?

Alex 41:34