Episode 05 | Origins: Learning Self Love with Juliann

In this episode, Lisa chats to Juliann about her journey with Prague Yoga Collective and Asana Etc. We talk about depression, self-love, and finding your path by learning by doing. Juliann has been with us from the very start of PYC and is an essential part of both our studios and Asana Etc. Shortly put, she's amazing, and you don't want to miss out on getting to know her a little better.

Lisa 0:21

Hey, you guys, and welcome to a new episode of Asana Etc Conversations about Yoga. Today I talked to Juliann and about her journey a little bit with us, and we talk about self love. It is from a recording that we did before we announced our 14 days of self love challenge back in February. But nevertheless, it is still very relevant. And those videos are still available on Asana etc.com. So you can still go ahead and do that challenge for yourself. Now, even so, the discussion that me and Julian have are very relevant things still, as it is still April and we are still on lockdown. Actually, I keep on saying that on this pilot, maybe I shouldn't. Alex told me the other day that all we do is talk about the weather and the lockdown on the pod still as well. So maybe I shouldn't do that. Anyway, let me know if you have anything else you would like us to talk about. And that is not the weather or the pandemic. or anything else. I don't know. I'm just blabbering here, guys, but I really enjoyed having this talk with Juliann. She's a great human, a great friend. And everybody deserves to, to hear her story because it's great. It's unique. And I'm sure that this is not the last time that we will have her here on the podcast with us. So let's get into today's conversation, guys. Enjoy. Can you still hear me?

Juliann 2:05

Yes. Can you still hear me?

Lisa 2:07

Of course, sometimes it just drops out when I hit record for some reason. But this time it didn't. So that's good.

Juliann 2:14

You're such a professional. I'm so excited for this.

Lisa 2:17

Yeah. Maybe I will keep that in the in that sentence you just said. Good. All right. Are you ready?

Juliann 2:26

Yeah. Okay,

Lisa 2:28

cool. All right. So I'm sitting here with Juliann Juliann Beals, our wonderful social media guru, website designer, all these things that keep us afloat and out in the world. And also, a very dear friend of mine, and a lovely person. So welcome, Juliann.

Juliann 2:55

Thank you. I am truly honored to be here. It's like I can't believe we're sitting here today. I mean, over zoom. Yeah. I feel like it's been such like a dream come true that it's still I think, kind of the reality still setting in.

Lisa 3:15

You mean, this whole this whole project?

Juliann 3:17

The whole project? Yes. Yeah. Cuz I'm Yeah. It was purely just asked over coffee over a year ago, just dreaming, like, how can we, I don't know, reach a bigger kind of audience and help serve more people outside of Prague. And just like, all the people who have come together all these skills and passions and like genuine love for yoga, and for people? I don't know. It's just like, every day, I'm so grateful for this whole project. So I'm really excited for this podcast that you're doing.

Lisa 3:52

Yeah, right. So this is supposedly our first episode that's going to go out. So you're going to be like the pioneering of this.

Juliann 4:00

I didn't realize I was the first I was thought of as the second or something. Oh, my gosh, okay. I'm even more honored.

Lisa 4:07

But I think maybe that ties back to what we did, because what you just mentioned is, after I had Avi, he was like, what, two months old or something, I would meet you for lunch quite a lot, because you will help me babysit him sometimes for a lunch class or something in the in the studio, and then we'd go for lunch. And we'd be like, ah, we should build this platform and do these things, right.

Juliann 4:33

But it's so much bigger than I think we ever talked about, because I think we were just planning kind of, oh, put a few resources or like do an ebook or something which would have helped our community. But then, like Kuba got involved and he he's just magical with video camera. And he's like, Yeah, let's do this. And so I think our creativity fed off each other, all of us and we're saying Like, we have so many passions and skills kind of represented within our within our group, I guess, of starting this and so it just like, it's so scary, but I think that's the kind of how dreams are supposed to be right a little bit scary, so that you kind of want to pursue them and grow through them. But so yeah, it's been there's been moments where like, Oh, can we do this? And then Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can do this.

Lisa 5:28

Right. I think for me, this whole project, I mean, we'll talk about the whole history of it. But it became real for me when we actually launched and it wasn't perfect when we launched but we were just like, let's launch and see what happens. And then we put something out there to the world and actually got really nice response to it. And that's when I was like, oh, oh, we're always working. Yeah. People are actually liking these things that we've done. So

“But it became real for me when we actually launched and it wasn't perfect when we launched but we were just like, let's launch and see what happens. And then we put something out there to the world and actually got a really nice response to it. And that's when I was like, oh, yeah. People are actually liking these things that we've done.”

-Lisa on Asana Etc.

Juliann 5:59

yeah, and I think the best part well, okay, so many best parts, but like, just a lot of the people who had moved away from Prague who were writing and saying, like, I'm so excited to be able to practice with you guys again. So and that's exactly what we want. We like, want the Prague, Prague Yoga Collective community kind of being able to reach further further than the physical Prague walls, right. So that's been like, the response from everybody in the support has just been humbling. You're so so nice. I mean, this is the best community ever. Yeah, for sure.

(The whole team - Lisa, Juliann, Betti, Alex, & Kuba of Asana Etc.)

Lisa 6:36

So let's go back a little bit. We we met for the first time in 2017. I believe you & me, right? Yes. And that's when when Betti and I had started this little Prague Yoga Collective in the CrossFit gym here in Prague. And, and you walked in there? Do you want to take me through that little bit?

Juliann 6:59

Yeah, it's one of my most dear memories. And one of the like, few, I guess, like points in my life, where it's, my life could have been complete, almost 180 if I hadn't walked through those doors, and like, there's a very good chance that I wasn't gonna walk through those doors, because it was I just moved to Prague like a month, or I think it was November that you guys open right? early November. So I would have been here, three months by that time, and I kind of had a rough, rough landing here in Prague. And I was severely depressed, like, could not get out of bed. And I worked from my computer. So it's like, I had no place to go and, and I was just, oh, I was miserable. I wanted to move away. But I had spent all this money doing a life change. And I don't remember what I was searching, but I was on Facebook, and an ad for yoga in English popped up on my Facebook ad targeted ad or whatever. And they must have known me, which I'm so grateful they did, because it turned out to be an ad that you had put out. And I remember writing to you, I think and I think I still have the email somewhere saying, Can I pay in cash? And you responded, yes. You're welcome. And so are like, welcome to paying cash. We'll see you there. And I was like, Okay, great. So I was planning on going to the opening day, but I could not like depression just held me down. It was horrible. And it was cold outside. And it's awful. And I'm really bad with directions. And I was like, I don't know how to get over there. But then the second day, I told myself, I was like, Julian, if I don't, nothing's gonna change if I don't pull myself out of this bed and go and just move my body at least a little bit. Hmm. And I practice yoga for a few years before that. When I lived in Copenhagen, I was part of a studio and I just remember how like healing it was for me. So I just knew if I could get to the studio, I'll be fine. And so I bundled up it was I remember is so cold, I couldn't even take my gloves off. And I got on the metro. And I think I got on the tram or, or walked or something. I don't know. So it was dark out. And anybody who had gone to that studio, like the parking lot where it was in, it was very much like, I'm going to, I'm going to something's going to happen to me like I'm back here.

Lisa 9:28

It's like a murder alley. I've heard it described as a murder alley.

(The infamous scary parking lot. Not so scary in the daylight, but trust Juliann, not the most comfortable walk at night;)

Juliann 9:32

It is. Yeah. And like, especially being from the United States, we are kind of a bit more paranoid about things like that. Whereas in Copenhagen and in Prague for the most part, things are really safe, but like being an expat in these places, I'm just not that's not my nature. I'm very paranoid and like dark, dark places, right. And so I think I physically stopped in the like gravel parking lot right outside the door, and I was like, I I don't know if I should go in there. And I almost turned around and I was like, no, it's been like 3045 minutes to get here. I just need to go. And as soon as I open the door, just like warmth, and energy and love and kind of envelops me. So that was from the CrossFit people. So that was Joey and his team, which those crossfitters are the nicest people. So I felt confident enough to go through, like you kind of had to go through their gym a little bit, and then walk up the stairs, and I walk, alright, open the door to the little studio upstairs. And Betti was at the desk, I don't think you were there that night. And Aniko was there. But I thought they knew each other because there's both speaking Hungarian to each other. And I, and I'm so shy in new situations. And I gave my money to Betti and was like I wrote in, I would like to join, and she gave me like, too much change back. And I was like, No, no, no, I want the 15 day intro pass that you guys are doing. And I remember her just the look of now I know her so well. It's like she was shocked. But she was trying to play it cool. Because Because I think you guys didn't expect people to show up that soon. So it was like on day two, I think. And I was so desperate. I was like, No, I need these 15 days in my life. And and she was so happy. And just yeah, shocked that I that I wanted this pass, I guess. And so I joined her class, and I don't think I met you until a few days later. Just because of my schedule. I ended up taking all Betty classes, which if anybody knows Betti or has been in her class, but Betti class is like the ultimate hard yoga class. And I basically had private lessons with Betti for I don't know, at least a week straight. And I because I wanted to get my money's worth for those 15 days because I was also really poor at the time. And I just powered through. Luckily, I just come off like a year and a half of personal training when I was back stateside. And I think that that helped me to survive buddy classes. But like then it then I think I met you for the opening party and and you heard you speak Swedish. And I was so homesick for anything that felt like home. So I latched on to you because I was like, Oh, I can understand some Swedish just because of being in Denmark for some time. And, and I was just like so friend hungry. I think at that time of like people who kind of spoke the yoga language that I just felt instantly at home and like these people are legit, they're passionate, they're caring. And it was private lessons between you and Betty for like, at least those maybe a month I don't know. Because then I immediately got like the unlimited 30 days, I think. And so it was like, it was really I was quite spoiled. And I knew I was spoiled. But I wasn't shocked at all that you guys immediately like the studio grew and you guys quickly grew out of that space. But

Lisa 13:25

I remember that in the beginning we were because we would we would not know if somebody would show or not. But we would always go Oh, should we just not go today? Oh, no, no, no, Julian's gonna be there. So we were always like, we will have to show up for jJliann or it was the same with Aniko as well. Yeah, like you guys were always together, or one or the other. And we were like, Okay, this is how it starts. This is how we have to do it. And it was always so nice to have you guys there because we we sort of got to know you guys really quickly because it was just us up there. You know? Yeah. And that felt really nice. So yeah,

(The old days - Juliann & Aniko upside down in the first Prague Yoga Collective studio)

Juliann 14:04

I had no idea that you guys said that, like that mean Aniko helped you guys show up because starting a business? Oh my goodness. Like it's so difficult. And some days you just want to rest or like, you're like, is this gonna work out? So I guess yeah, from a business owner standpoint, it is really nice to have people that love you and latch on very early on. Yeah, for sure. Yeah,

Lisa 14:33

yeah. So then, let's, let's fast forward a bit. We were up there and we were doing practicing together. And then there was this point where we we were ready to move out of that little studio space and we found ourselves a new place that we reconstructed and and that's when you sort of hopped on board to first I think Firstly, it was to redo Our website and do this rebranding for us. That's correct. Right.

Juliann 15:05

I think I did it before you guys moved out? Or maybe it just took so long to move into the Rejskova of a location. Yeah, maybe.

Lisa 15:15

Yeah, something like that. And we this is a nice story, actually, because the swirl that is Prague yoga collectives logo is, is Julian's doing that she made? And we sat so long with all these awful logos. And then one day, she just sent this and we were like, this is it. This is the one this is right. Do you want to tell us a story of how the swirl came to be? Well,

Juliann 15:43

so I, my education is in graphic design. And so I met with I think one day after class. I was like, well, I could help out or and you're like, Well, yeah, let's do that. And I think you I was shocked that you would trust me kind of to do it. But it was so nice that I was kind of getting back into graphic design. And I think I presented a few logo options, but then your sister in law, Freya was there in Prague at the time, and I think she had done a version. So I have to give Freya credit as well, because she's awesome. And I think she had done a version where, like just a sketch to kind of show what maybe you guys would want. And I think it was like a laid out mat or something. And so I think that's kind of what I'm sorry. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, that's a really like, cool idea to do like a yoga mat. And, and I remember sitting at my desk, and I had like a touchpad computer at the time. And so I just looked down at my pink, precious yoga mat was like rolled up next to me. And so this is like the top view, the logo, I ended up just like drawing with my finger, the top view of what I was seeing with my pink yoga mat kind of like rolled up next to me. And so, and not it's kind of fun, because like, some people understand that and some people don't, which is fine. Like, that's kind of the fun, The fun thing about a logo and, and I remember kind of presenting it to you guys that wasn't really sure. And you guys were like, yep, that's it. Let's go with it. That was like, Okay, great. Um, but it's been pretty cool to kind of watch it grow throughout and seeing it elsewhere in the city. And even like Wolf, one of our most dedicated students and our our friend, he has it tattooed on his shoulder just because, like, Yoga has changed his life and, and I I don't know his story from the beginning, but I think Prague Yoga Collective is kind of like his first studio to really get involved. And so I think maybe that's like, the reason why he got this Prague Yoga Collective logo tattooed on him. So yeah, it's just really cool. I don't know, like it's it's fun to kind of see this the soil, different places and because it just brings back such like good memories of such like a defining moment in my life. So it's like a huge honor to have have that on any like t shirt or sweatshirt that

(Juliann’s rebranding of Prague Yoga Collective - the old logo next to the new logo. Can you see the yoga mat?)

Lisa 18:22

The honor is all ours. Yeah. So so then you went on to, to do all of I mean, you still do all of our social media and our email marketing and like you're sort of our face outwardly, even though people rarely see your, your actual face, you know? And, and we have a really strong profile, I think Thanks to you, I know that the girls and I, we tried to to do this instagramming and stuff back in the day and then you took over and you're like, No, no, this is not how it goes. And you really transformed it for us and I think it's it's a really big part of the fact that we reach so many people in the studio so thanks so thank you for that. Anyone out there need someone to work with them? Juliann's your girl.

(Prague Yoga Collective’s dedicated Yogi, Wolf rocking his PYC tattoo)

Juliann 19:22

I have thank you I have kind of become because people will ask Oh, who does? Prague Yoga Collective's Instagram and you guys like give them my name in the yoga community here is fairly small. And so I kind of love it because people will write into me saying like, hey, how do I do this on Instagram and I'm more than happy to help. But I would say like I didn't really know Instagram marketing when I started with you, but I just knew that I know how to take some decent photos. I know how to kind of like arrange things just with graphic design. Like Yeah, sure I can help out. But then it was like I just researched and read searched and researched. Because I was also in a time of my life where I needed a career switch out of teaching English. And you guys just allowed me to kind of trial and error this. So I'm so grateful for that as well. So a sonic tetras Instagram, I'm still kind of figuring it out if I'm being honest, just kind of seeing where it grows. Um, but it's definitely a lesson this whole project for me especially is definitely a lesson of start before you're ready. Not nothing is ever going to be perfect for you to just like, start, you know, you like you want it to be perfect. And, and before you can start, and it's really I'm trying to get rid of that urge in my life. And just to be okay with just doing like starting, you begin something and correct yourself or you need to correct yourself and grow and learn where you need to grow and learn and, but then just like do and put that magic out into the world. And so I think Asana etc. Because I mean, it's kind of like I'm teaching myself, like I know what to do web design, but doing it on this different platform, it was kind of learning on the go. And there's still things that I need to fix. But like, just doing it. And learning as I go has been such like a freeing, sometimes stressful, but ultimately freeing feeling. Because I'm not worried about, oh my gosh, it's not perfect. I mean, I have high standards, I just told you before this call, like, Oh, I forgot to do something on the mobile website. But ultimately, I got that page out there so that people could enjoy this current self-love project that we're doing. Hmm. Even though the mobile site was wasn't perfect, but I think people were okay with it. And like, people are graceful, and like they're willing to give a little wiggle room. And that's really nice.

Lisa 22:09

But I think also, I think this ties into the biggest reason why we came together to speak today, which is because we are doing this 14 days of self-love that we launched yesterday. So as we speak, it was yesterday, yesterday was the 14th of February. And instead of focusing on, you know, love with a partner, or going for a date, or eating chocolate, or whatever, even though those things are really great. We wanted to focus on a bit of self-love and self-care, especially in these times of a pandemic. And here in Prague, at least we're still in a lockdown. So, so this is what we, we came together to do, which we'll speak about in a moment, but but what you're saying there, or what you just said, it really leads us into that I think this self-love isn't just about, you know, sitting in the bath and eating grapes. But it's also really about trusting yourself and doing the things that you dream about and allowing yourself this wiggle room that you're talking about. And this allowing yourself to make mistakes on the way to learning to become better and bigger at what you're doing. And I think that that is the story that at least you and me have together you and me and the girls have together is that we really just started off somewhere. And we took it from there. And we haven't ever been perfect. Nor do I think we ever will be perfect, you know.

Juliann 23:44

And it's something so beautiful in the imperfections I think but sadly, like we're programmed to want that perfection, right? And society tells us that we need to be that perfection and but I think that is also the kind of the draw of Prague Yoga Collective. And hopefully Asana etc, going forward, is that you don't have to be perfect to show up to your mat. And you don't have to be perfect to show up to this community. And it's very accepting. And I think like, that's not only my opinion, like, it's just like with conversations I've had with people throughout Prague and yeah, and that's wonderful. That's wonderful. I'm proud to be a part of that, you know, that kind of studio and and that group of humans and but yes, so hugely important to kind of let go of the need to be perfect in order to do like self-love and self-care practices. And I'm really excited for this project because it's so diverse. Like, I'm not sure when this podcast will come out but we'll see because towards towards the end I think Trygve's video especially people won't be expecting it I mean, it'll make sense once they, once they see it, I think but yeah, just like everyone kind of with different stories, who were willing to give up their time and to share their practices and their tools and kind of what they do. I think there's something for everyone, like, maybe not everyone will be drawn to each video. But I think that's especially like more important to have such a diverse 14-day project.

“And it's something so beautiful in the imperfections I think. But sadly, we're programmed to want that perfection, right? Society tells us that we need to be that perfection, but I think that is also the kind of the draw of Prague Yoga Collective. And hopefully, Asana etc, going forward, is that you don't have to be perfect to show up to your mat. And you don't have to be perfect to show up to this community.”

-Juliann on the philosophy behind Prague Yoga Collective & Asana Etc.

Lisa 25:33

Yeah, for sure. I mean, we so we have this idea, together with Annie, who's one of our teachers, and she really wanted to do something for just to help mental health in these times just to get people moving a little bit. And in focusing on themselves, and we, we sort of blew it out of proportion, a little bit from the original idea where we just asked around, and there were so many people who really wanted to come in and share and then and then Kuba was on board and wanted to film and we just said, Okay, let's just do this in a larger scale. And it's so we have 14 different people, I think, maybe 15 1515 different people, teachers, is that correct?

Juliann 26:22

Well, Annie's doing two of the videos, but then we have a little surprise after, right?

Lisa 26:27

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So we have a bunch of great, yeah. Fans are great people, some of some of them, you might have been practicing with are ready, either in person or during the challenge now. And it's, it's just, it's just been a wonderful thing to produce, and a wonderful thing that we're putting out to the world and that we're really proud of, to give to you guys. And and yeah, I hope that I hope that we've been practicing with it. Have you Juliann, have you done them?

(Juliann exploring a world turned upside down)

Juliann 27:01

Yeah, I did some of Annie's yesterday, and, but today was my video. So I didn't I didn't sit down, but my video is definitely. Which is kind of perfect, because like, I guess maybe I can explain the heart behind my video. So it's actually just like a daily self-check-in that I use, I wouldn't say every day, but I definitely use it when I'm suffering from like anxiety, or stress or some kind of emotion that I can't really identify. And it's like, you know, those moments where you just either want to go to sleep or, or just like, take a shower and just like wash it away or something like that. And sometimes you just can't go to bed yet. So like it's a really great tool to just kind of sit and identify what is going on between your mind and your body and how these emotions and these feelings are physically showing up in your body, identifying them kind of making peace with them, and then releasing them so that they don't get blocked up. Because I learned how important this was. Because I took a six-month Date with Dignity was the name of the course. So last summer, essentially or last year, I guess, with a love coach in Canada, a lady named Diana Eskander. And this was a tool that she used for every session that it was a small group that would meet over zoom and she would take us through this like five minute just daily check in of identifying like, how do we need to address these emotions? And do we just need to sit with them for a little bit? Or do we need to release them? Or do we need to maybe it's like a good good demotion or something so maybe we just need to like just bask in the joyfulness of it or whatever. So like things like butterflies in your stomach or like I don't know, sometimes pressure on your head, some of the girls would say or like tension, I would always have tension in my upper left pack. And that's where I would carry a lot of my stress or, or frustration or something. But then it's like she helped us dig a little bit deeper to identify, okay, maybe it's showing up like this, but what do you think it really is? And because like I think as humans we also suppress our feelings and our emotions so much that they physically and it sounds weird, but like maybe it makes more sense to other people, but physically, they get blocked up in our bodies and then somehow they have to come out. And whether that is like burst of anger or I don't know just frustration or like It comes out maybe in more of a negative way than what you would want and, and I remember one session, it's like I had suppressed this one emotion I didn't even realize for probably 11 years. And it was like the second session, and she was able to kind of unlock it just by questions she would ask. But it's like, I could just feel that emotion finally getting out of my body, and I was physically better, mentally better or whatever. And so this tool, and that I asked her permission, if I could share this for this project. This tool kind of helps, like, maintain the, the emotional, what would you call it, emotional intelligence, or maturity or something, or, or just emotional health. So that hopefully, I won't, because like, when that old emotion came out, I was just like, sobbing, I barely knew these people. It wasn't like maybe the way that I wanted to kind of have it happen. But it did. It was needed. And they were graceful, and so kind about it. But so I don't know, I just like for me, personally, it was so important to realize, Oh, these are physically in my body. And I kind of just need to become friends with my feelings and my emotions, rather than say that it's not important, or I'm weak for feeling this way. Or I'm not worthy for feeling this way. Like, I need to acknowledge them. Just with me, just like five minutes, quiet alone time. And then like that can make a world of difference. Yeah. And it probably sounds silly to anybody who hasn't really kind of sat with their emotions. But all my gosh, that's like a non negotiable for me these days is when I can feel myself kind of getting blocked up, I need to just sit down for a bit and kind of work through like do a body scan is what it is kind of an placing your hands where you're feeling that, that that sensation, whether it's like pain, or tingling, or butterflies, or whatever it is. Yeah, I don't know. So it's just yeah, it's such like a good, good tool. And so I was really honored that I could share it. So hopefully, I don't know. Kate has written to me, and she was like, Oh, I loved it, Juliann, so I was like, Oh, great. At least one person loved it. So

(Juliann recording her 14 Days of Self-Love video)

Lisa 32:30

I watched it this morning as well. And I really loved it. So good thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think that there's a strength to you in sharing this because it comes from something that's, you know, that's, I wouldn't say dear to your heart. But like, that's a bad expression, I think but like, from personal experience, maybe it's what I mean is this thing of working with emotions, and, and maybe not really knowing how to how to do it. And a lot of people, especially, you know, during this past year, where there's been a lot of change in the world, have had to stand up and either deal with their emotions or, or, you know, try to not deal with their emotions. And I think it's getting harder and harder and harder to walk away from dealing with your emotions at this point. So having a tool like this, even if it's just like a little five minute thing that you do every day can be, I think, for some people can be life changing, actually, in these times.

Juliann 33:37

Oh, for sure. Yeah. And we can't, we're all like stuck at home, for the most part, you know, and it's like, you can't run away for your emotions right now. You're gonna have to deal with them in some, in some fashion. Really difficult and really uncomfortable and painful at times. And so it's definitely a practice. And even Diana was saying, because some of the girls, they weren't able to kind of identify physical sensations at first. But definitely towards the end of the six months, all of us were really good. Being like very self aware of Okay, this is how it's showing up on my body today. It's because of this, but like, I think maybe it's really because of this. And then we would that would open the discussion of like, Okay, how are you going to deal with it? Or like, any, you know, support questions or whatever. So Diana did a really good job with structuring the course like that. So if anybody wants a love coach, Oh, my gosh, she is incredible. So it was, I think, a really great time. It was a leap of faith to take to commit to this six month course because it is an investment with your time and your money, but I would make that investment over and over and over again, even with knowing how poor I was at the time when I when I decided to sign on. Because it was life changing. And just even this one tool, I feel like is worth the money, honestly, because it helps me all the time. I haven't been in the course, since October, early October. And I'm still using this this course or this tool. Excuse me. Yeah, all the time. So I hope that I hope it helps others three,

Lisa 35:28

I'm sure, I'm sure. And I think that this, we will definitely link to her on your show notes page. But also, I think it's, it's can serve as a reminder that maybe, I mean, we all need different things. So maybe not everybody will need this specific person or tool. But it can serve as a reminder that, that we don't tend to invest in our mental health so much, you know, you will go to the doctor, if you break your leg, you know, because he'd got to, you got to fix your leg, you want to walk around, right? Or you need to go to the dentist because your tooth is hurting. Like it's a given, if you can scrape the cash together to go to the dentist, you go to the dentist, right? Most people at least but at least myself, when it comes to mental health, it takes a long time to realize that I need to talk to someone or do something or practice something, because because of the way that I'm feeling mentally, and maybe can serve as a reminder to people to actually seek out tools and help and support also for your mental health. Because it's so important.

“When it comes to mental health, it takes a long time to realize that I need to talk to someone or do something or practice something, because of the way that I'm feeling mentally, and maybe can serve as a reminder to people to actually seek out tools and help and support also for your mental health. Because it's so important.”

-Lisa on mental health

Juliann 36:46

Oh, for sure. Especially after 2020 My goodness. And like 2021 we're still we're all hanging in there and, and mental health, like I feel like the conversation is becoming more open. Maybe that's just, you know, because I, I am a bit more open about like, my struggles with depression. So maybe I don't know, the internet knows or something. And so like I'm finding resources. But some people I guess there is kind of still that stigma of going to a therapist or struggling with depression or struggling with mental health and in various aspects. So the more we talk about it, I think can only only be good. Because just letting people that know that we're not alone, or you're not alone, you know, because it is so lonely. In those moments, right? where you're like, Am I the only one feeling like this? Am I the only one feeling crazy and overwhelmed and tired? And so yeah, it's hugely important and preventative, I guess work? Which Yoga is kind of also preventative work for me and like maintenance work. But I don't know with you, Lisa, I'm curious. You being a yoga teacher? Because that is your job.

Lisa 38:08


Juliann 38:09

Does that work with like, yoga being a kind of a time to escape versus a career? Are you able to separate that?

Lisa 38:18

Oh, goodness, that's a good question. No, not not all the time, that's for sure. There's a lot of times where maybe I can take 2020 as an example. Because we if you're not in Prague, and you don't know what we did here, we were able to sort of have our studios open or semi open between late May to the beginning of October. And during that time, me and the girls were just working our butts off teaching, teaching teaching. And when I do that, I've done I've done teaching for 15 years. But and there's been times in my life when I was younger, where I could easily teach 17-20 classes a week and just be happy with that. But I'm now going on 35 years old. And it is it is it is definitely time to slow that down because only because of inspiration because as my practice changes and grows as a practitioner, it also changes and grows as a teacher and I find that I need more and more time to plan and to share and to serve other people. And I think for last year, for example, there was definitely a point there and I think around August where I ran straight into a wall did not want to do any teaching more for the rest of my life. So, yeah, it's a good question. I think a lot of yoga teachers these days, this is what we sort of deal with, because it's a low paid job ish. You know, if you don't have, I don't know, if you don't have Instagram followers, or if you don't build something, if you're just teaching classes, it's hard work. It's super hard work. Because you want to be there for everyone, and you want to do well, but but it does take a toll on your mental health if you don't care for yourself. And it's definitely done that for me on several occasions in my career. When I do think, yeah, I don't know, I think I know how to deal with it. Now, more so than ever, because of 2020.

Juliann 40:52

Yeah, I guess yeah, it's taught us a lot of, I guess, resiliency and, but it's like, I don't just hearing your your heart over the time that what the, the few years that we've known each other. You do you are you always show up to every class and you give your all. And you're very inspiring and very welcoming, like anybody will say that. But you have such great stories from your years of teaching yoga all over the world, like your, I guess, network, but that makes it sound like it's all about money. But just like all of your connections of different teachers have different backgrounds that different cultures have different, you know, all these things, I think is really beautiful. And so maybe with this podcast, it can be kind of a way to serve through yoga still, but maybe just like in a different format. While still, of course, like, this is not saying that you're going to stop teaching, but but I just think like there's so many wonderful stories that you have to share. And this would be a great, I don't know, medium to share, because I'm always like, Oh, you did that. Lisa, whoa, you live there. Whoa, cool. Cool. So, and yeah, anybody who walks through the doors, of Prague Yoga Collective. I feel like you have some sort of, I don't know you've been to that culture or whatever. So maybe that's like a probably a huge part of why people feel welcome, you know, because you're like, Oh, yeah, that's I lived there for a bit or have some yoga friends there. And it just makes the yoga world so like, kind of cozy.

Lisa 42:37

Right. I've never, I've never thought about it that way. But maybe there's some truth in that would be nice. I don't know. Yeah, there's so many ways to share, I think as we grow older, it's, it's, um, I mean, now it made it sound like we're going on 75. But as we grow older and wiser, you know, we even find different ways of sharing the stuff that we're sharing with other people. And when it comes to the yoga practice, at least for me, and I know for many other people as well, it's, you know, got gone from being physical to being you know more about my mental health, rather than, rather than how far I can stretch or how long I can hold the hands down. I mean, it's fun. And it's cool with progress. But it's not, to me, the yoga practice isn't about that anymore. And when you look at the teaching, and when you look at how you show up for your students, I think that's the difference. You know, because I could, I can teach a lot of physical movement, it's not a problem. But I think when it comes to the emotional part, or the mental part, it's really hard to share with a group of people five times a day, rather than maybe once a day, you know, you can't give your all and all of your energy to two people for that long. So, yeah, for sure. It's a difference to growth. I think maybe.

Juliann 44:16

Yeah, yeah, definitely. We've all been growing this this last year. My goodness.

Lisa 44:21


Juliann 44:23

We've had to, I suppose.

Lisa 44:25

Yeah. I mean, I think one thing that I'd like to touch upon as well, regarding this self love is that this past year, I've met so many people that are, you know, everybody's asking how you doing what's going on with the things and you know, 2020 How has it affected you? That's what it means. How are you? How is 2020 affected you? And it's always like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's we're getting by but you know, people have it worse. And I've come to a point where I'm like, You know what, even if people have it worse, I'm allowed to grieve my stuff that I believe, even if I am doing okay, even if guys can still feed my children, I'm allowed to grieve my loss that happened in 2020. I think it's a, I think that's a big reminder that could play into these 14 days of extra self love. What do you think?

Juliann 45:30

Oh, for sure. And I feel like I've seen a couple memes about that recently, of all we always extend grace to others, like, Oh, yeah, it's okay to feel it's okay to be sad, or it's okay to be upset or, or to feel this way. But when it comes to yourself, you're like, Oh, no, like, I'm not allowed to feel sad or, or, like, I'm, I can't feel guilty about grieving this loss or whatever. And I feel like a lot of people, a lot of my friends, at least, that I've talked to kind of feel the same way we kind of joke about it. And we shared those means and totally, like, I think it's important to grieve the changing of life, because it's affected us all, more of Earth. Some of us it's affected us more, of course. But I think like grieving, their sadness, as well, makes us human. And so we're grieving the sadness for people we don't even know we're grieving, the, the sadness and the change of what life was, to what life is now, even if, even if we have a job, and we're able to eat, and you know, all of these things. But like, again, that's kind of, don't let those emotions get blocked up. Like acknowledge it, like no judgment, just sit with it, become friends with it, so that you can let it go. So that hopefully, when this, when the world goes back to normal, whatever that may look like, that we can move forward and hopefully, you know, come together and make this world a better place and but it's all part of the process, I guess your grieving is is huge, like there have been, you know, personal maybe that's for another podcast, but like times in my life where I've had to grieve big losses. And I didn't let myself grieve because I was told or, or I felt that I should be over that loss. And so I didn't, and then it showed up years later, you know, maybe that is what came out with this love coach. Like on that second session, maybe that's what it was, I felt like this little ghosty or whatever, it just came flying out of my body. Like this grief ghost, that I was finally able to let it go. So I think, good on you grieve it. And however, whatever that looks like, however long that takes, because we Gosh, we all have to.

Lisa 48:13

Yeah, yeah, I think it's so important to let ourselves sit with sit with emotions and, and acknowledge that they exist. You know, I'm trying, I'm trying my hardest to, I guess an adult, I've had to learn that I think it's not something I learned from home. Not that it was my parents fault or anything. It's just not something that we did in my household. We just didn't talk about feelings so much. You know, and I'm trying really hard to, to give my children space to talk about their feelings and stuff. But it's it's really, really difficult when I don't know, myself. Or when I haven't been taught that myself, I sort of have to teach myself at the same time as I teach my children that it's okay, you know?

“I think it's so important to let ourselves sit with emotions, and acknowledge that they exist.”

-Lisa on mental health

Juliann 49:05

Yeah, definitely. Well, that change. I think you said that it like some copy that you helped me write the change starts with us within us, right? If we want to change the world, or whatever. So yeah, has to come from us first, and then we're able to help others. And those boys are very lucky to call you mom.

(Juilann proudly representing Prague Yoga Collective and beyond)

Lisa 49:27

Oh. Maybe I should do the next podcast with them. What do you think? Oh, my gosh, I would love that. Maybe a little segment? I don't know.

Juliann 49:37

That would be so much fun. And everyone loves Phineas. So yeah, that'd be great.

Lisa 49:43

He would focus though. He'd probably just have a couple of words to say and then and he'd take off. Yeah. maybe a year or so. We'll see. Yeah, definitely. All right, Julian, is there anything else you'd like to add? This conversation. Any last last words I'm saying? Any last words, sir. Any anything else that some of your mind?

Juliann 50:09

No, I feel like it was just a nice normal. Lisa and Juliann talk that we have whenever cafes are open. Yeah.

Lisa 50:17

Looking forward to that.

Juliann 50:19

It'll be so nice. But this was a good in between in between session?

Lisa 50:25

Yeah, for sure. Okay, so we will definitely or I will definitely invite you again and talk about Juliann's journeys. We've had a little taste of that today. But I think people would like to hear more about you so. So I will invite you back and do another one of these with you soon. But for some last things before we sort of sign off from here is that if you, if you would like to take part of this 14 days of self-love challenge, it doesn't matter if you haven't started it yet. We released one video every day at 6am. Is that correct? Around 6am?

Juliann 51:11

Yes, my alarm is set for 5:30 to make sure I don't miss it.

Lisa 51:16

Great. So it's 6am. Every morning, it started the 14th of February, and it will end on the 28th. And maybe perhaps there'll be something special on the first of March as well. A little secret that we're working on. But yeah, so if you sign on, and you want to do this, and it's already the 26th of February, that's fine, you'll see, you'll see all the videos already uploaded there. So you can always start this challenge at a later date as well. And all these videos are available on our new online project, which is called Asana, etc.com. And it's Asana like a s a n a etc.com. And you can sign up there for some free free days of using the entire platform, not just only these 1414 videos, but they'll there's also unlimited access to all of our content that we have online from all of our beautiful teachers. So so you should do that. Right, JulianN?

Juliann 52:22

Oh, definitely. We have so many videos and like we have more videos coming like it's just incredible. Honestly, Kuba is just a powerhouse when it comes to filming and those long filming days. And so he's making all of all of you guys, I mean, wonderful classes, but he has a little extra magic to him. I think that just makes it really good and beautiful to follow along with.

Lisa 52:52

Yeah, for sure. All right. Cool. So thank you so much, Juliann, for talking to me today. Yeah, thank

Juliann 53:00

Thank you, Lisa.

Lisa 53:03

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